The GUS Daily Digest Monday, 8 May 1995 Volume 22 : Number 006 Today's Topics: Re: Interwave SB compatibility Recording WAV files on the GUS Re: program that can loop recorded samples. megaem 3.03b midi in Re: GUS and CDROM's CD - cool, but can't dig GUS Sampling and Looping (USS 8) end of win95 discussion GUS w/ Win'95 is on topic, sorry GUS w/Win95 Re: New listserver BRAND NEW PATCHES!!!!!!:)) Windows 95 Terminal Velocity Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 [none] RE: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 RE: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 Announcing 2PAT v1.5 Re: GUS and CDROM's (fwd) No Cursor when Windows comes up first time. Win95 discussion concerns. Gus resources vie IRC Win95 discussion concerns. StarTrek TNG Standard Info: - Meta-info about the GUS can be found at the end of the Digest. - Before you ask a question, please READ THE FAQ. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Martin Laukkanen Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 17:08:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Interwave SB compatibility > From: Sam > > > IW will be 100% gus hardware compatible. SB and GM compat. will be with > > megaem, (i.e. hardware-assisted software) same as it is now. The software > > (drivers, patchmaker etc) will obviously be upgraded to support the extra > > Please stop spreading 'news' which are NOT true. I read on an AMD document > about the Interwave that it will be 100% HARDWARE compatible with the SB in > addition to GUS compatibility! I surely hope NOT!! I mean its hard enough getting LAZY coders like those at certain big companies to support the GUS, if you give them an excuse like 'but the new GUS's support SB so blah blah' then that will NOT help the GUS at all! Anyway MAXSBOS and 32bit Megaem are very good programs, so you rarely have compatabitily probs anymore! l8r. - --- /-\ /-\ |\ | |-\ /-\ |\/| | / |-| | \| |-/ \-/ | | | \ o f | | - ---------> Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 00:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Recording WAV files on the GUS I have a GUS v2.4 with 1 meg of DRAM on-board. I have recently recorded a Wave file using GoldWave 2.11 for Windows using 8bit Mono 22kHz sampling but someone told me all they heard was static when they played it on a non-GUS card... Does anyone know if WAVs recorded on the GUS plays back on other soundcards or not? Also, does anyone know of a better format to record Audio CDs for people to sample the songs and is there actually a way to compress WAVs and for recording WAVs, what is the best program to use with the GUS? Thanks in advance and Happy GUSing! Cheers, Vince ___ System Administrator \|/ bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU ___ | The California Unix Public Access (o o) Systems, Inc. (CUPA) | | root@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU -oOO__(_)__OOo- San Francisco, California USA | | __ __ __ __ __ _____ _____ UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering | | ( )( )( )( ) ( )( ___)( ___) Los Angeles, California USA | \(__)/ ( )( )\| )( ) ( )_ E-Mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu, \ / ( )( ) \ )( )__ ( )__ mailserv@gaia.ucs.orst.edu, \/ (__)(__) (__)(_____)(_____) mailserv@mail.nws.orst.edu, I.S.A. Class of 1992 vince@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU, International Studies Academy High School vince@archive.epas.utoronto.ca, San Francisco, California USA vince@axposf.Stanford.EDU, GUS Digest/Mailing List Administrator vpoy@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The VINCEP@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu, ultimate in computer soundcard technology upoy@physics.ucla.edu FreeBSD - Real Berkeley Unix(tm) for Free! BSD (tm)(c) 1995 - The Regents of | -=oOO There are many forms of science the University of California | | but only physics is the quantum leap of the 21st century OOo=- | | Harvard/Yale/MIT/Princeton/Berkeley Student in the making | |___ Copyrighted (c) 1995 by Vince. All Rights Reserved. ___| ------------------------------ From: Andrew McDonald Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 18:13:47 AEST-1000 Subject: Re: program that can loop recorded samples. > From: c@peacdr0.nottingham.ac.uk > > Hi, > I'd like some advice from the experts on how to take a > sample recorded through the GUS(v 3.4) line in, and loop it > continuously. I want to be able to sample a guitar chord sequence > edit it to the right length and loop it indefinately, so I can > practice along with it. I've tried using USS8 which I got with my > Gus, but I have to insert every measure, which makes the sample > extremely long, when what I need to do it just repeat the same > information. *snip* Hi there! I know of a Windows program which is available on the Ultrasound ftp directories, called Cool-Editor. I think the file was called COOLED.(zip / arj). You can record a sample, and then just highlight a portion and press loop. I think it should do the job. It also has a whole bunch of utilities and gadgets for editing the sound wave. If cool-editor isn't suitable for what you want, then e-mail me back and I'll write a program to do it using the sdk. It's not a major task, but it could take a while since i have exams coming up soon. Have a nice time! - - andrewMAC! __ __ \ \/ / Andrew McDonald THE \ / FILES Engineering II --- / \ ----- Monash University /_/\_\ Melbourne AUSTRALIA ------------------------------- THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE... ANDREWM@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ From: Calvin Dytham Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 10:10:09 PDT Subject: megaem 3.03b midi in The beta version of protected mode MEGAEM - where can I get a copy. It doesn't appear to be on any of the GUS FTP sites. My MIDI IN stopped working when I changed from Win 3.1 to Win 3.11 and to GUS 3.57 disks. Is there something in the Win.ini that I have to change? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dr Calvin Dytham Department of Biology University of York York, YO1 5DD, UK ------------------------------ From: Clarke Brunt Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 10:44:07 BST Subject: Re: GUS and CDROM's >I have been lurking in the GUS digest shadows for awhile and have noticed a >fair amount of questions regarding CDROM's and GUS. Most are does X ROM work >with my GUS? I have a GUS with 1 meg and am running the lastest patch 3.59. >I am thinking about getting a 2X or 4X drive. This sort of thing does indeed get asked a lot. My own opinion is that *all* CDROMs work. If you connect them via their own interface (be it proprietary, SCSI, or even IDE these days), then whether or not they work is nothing to do with the GUS. Of course if you want to connect one to the interface on a GUS card, then you must get one which is supported. There is no benefit to connecting via the GUS other than saving a slot in the computer - you don't get extra functionality. The only connection between a CDROM and a GUS is an audio cable, if you want to play audio CDs and have the output emerge from the GUS - you still need the audio cable even if the CDROM is interfaced via the GUS. And while writing: whoever posted capitalized shouting about not discussing Win95, then tough - as long as the posts are GUS related, we'll discuss whatever we want. And any chance of reducing the extra headers on each message that the new listserver is putting on, and any chance of a slightly smaller .sig from Vince, even though he does seem to have more email addresses than the rest of us put together :-) ------------------------------ From: "Acs Attila Elemental of Exact" Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:01:00 Subject: CD - cool, but can't dig Hi all! I write again beause of my CD problem. I've connected the CD audio output to GUSMAXs CD audio in. It sounds pretty good, but i can't get any sound in USS, and thats why i can't digitize samples from CD-s.(i have an Aztech CD-ROM) Please help! My other problem is Mortal Kombat 2. I have a DX2/66, but MK2 is very slow. It loads too much at every movement. I've tried it on low detail, but it was still slow. Does anyone know how to make it faster? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------ From: Bryan Maher Date: Fri, 05 May 95 09:22:34 EDT Subject: GUS Sampling and Looping (USS 8) Mark, >I'd like some advice from the experts on how to take a sample recorded through >the GUS(v 3.4) line in, and loop it continuously. I do stuff like this on occasion... IFF you have windows, do the following: o Sample your guitar into a .wav format. o Use Patch Maker Lite to create a Gus Patch. o Use Patch Manager to load your Guitar Patch into your current midi map. o With any MIDI program, ie Power Chords, Recording Session... Create a song which plays your chord over and over. If you created the sustain correctly in Patch Maker, you can tie whole notes together for virtually infinite sustain and it consumes very little memory. Benefits: + Low memory overhead + You can use your patch to play other chords in the scale without re-recording. + You can have your chord play a rhythm without having to capture the rhythm in a .wav file. Draw backs: - - Takes a little fidgeting with tuning your Patch (good practice anyway) - - Not as realistic as a live recording of a continuous guitar playing. Good Luck, Bryan Maher ------------------------------ From: catena@arrcee.ENET.dec.com Date: Fri, 5 May 95 09:52:22 EDT Subject: end of win95 discussion I was under the impression this list was for helping people with GUS questions get answers. I know I have been helped on numerous occasions and wee all know how many answers we get directly form GRAVIS :(. I intend to continue to answer any WIN95 questions I can. I've been running the betas for months. It is not a crap os any more than any of the pc os are. I happen to like it and yes i have tried os/2, this is just my personal opinion, i also run linux and like it. lets get on with helping people with problems, i honestly beleive nothing written in this digest will help getting ANYTHING from gravis any sooner than they intend. have fun, ------------------------------ From: ndanylcz@Socrates.health.gov.sk.ca (Neil Danylczuk) Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 09:54:40 -1000 Subject: GUS w/ Win'95 is on topic, sorry >Date: Thu, 4 May 1995 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT) >Subject: -- THE END OF WIN '95 DISCUSSION -- > >From: alek@linefeed.com (Alek Hayes) > >Greetings Gussers, > > I have been watching the acumulated shit about Win 95 build up in this >digest over the past few months. I have a few things to say to end this >matter once and for all. That would be fine if you were the ultimate arbiter of everything, but you're not. What sort of accumulated **** are you referring to anyway, bad spelling, poor grammar, and vulgarities? >DO NOT POST MESSAGES ABOUT WIN 95 UNTIL IT IS OUT. GRAVIS HAVE GOT NO >OBLIGATION TO SUPPORT WIN 95 BECAUSE IT IS NOT OFFICIALLY OUT YET. > >IT HAS BEEN EXPLAINED MANY TIMES IN THIS DIGEST THAT THE GUS WILL WORK WITH >WIN 95. IF IT DOESN'T THEN TOUGH! > >TO PREVENT ENCOURAGMENT OF PEOPLE ASKING ABOUT WIN 95, I SUGGEST THAT NOONE >ANSWERS TO MESSAGES ABOUT WIN 95, ENAD ESPECIALLY ANNOYING COMMENTS LIKE: Just because you're reefing on your CAPS lock key, doesn't mean everyone else has to halt discussion on an on-topic subject. >THIS PERSON OBVIOUSLY HAS A PROBLEM. IGNORE HIM. DO NOT WRITE FOLLOW UPS >ABOUT ANY WIN 95 PROBLEMS AND I REPEAT, DO NOT WRITE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. >LIBERATE THE DIGEST AS IT SHOULD BE! Boy, you sure know how to demonstrate irony don't you. ENCOURAGE FREE SPEECH BY NOT DISCUSSING ANYTHING ALEK SAYS WE CAN'T! (repeat and goose-step) >- -- > ***** This message was posted by Alek Hayes ***** > _________________________ >/ \ //---------------------------------\\ >| Email addresses: | | "My God... It's full of stars..." | >| Alek@linefeed.com | \\------2001: A Space Odyssey------// >| Alek@msn.com |_________________________ >| \ >| Home page: | >| http://www.linefeed.com/linefeed/alek/home.html | >| | >| Voice phone: | >| 0181 896 1984 | >\____________________________________________________/ > A polite suggestion on reducing unwanted traffic - lose the humungous signature. - ---------\ Neil D /--------- Neil Danylczuk PCS (Professional Computer Services) Phone: (306) 787-1080 Regina, SK, Canada - ---------/ndanylcz@socrates.health.gov.sk.ca\--------- ------------------------------ From: ndanylcz@Socrates.health.gov.sk.ca (Neil Danylczuk) Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 10:20:56 -1000 Subject: GUS w/Win95 Some citizens on the digest are trying to say that the use of GUS with Win95 is not appropriate topic for this mailing list. Hogwash. Just because it isn't sitting on store shelves doesn't make it any less relevant. With 500,000+ sold, and likely 4 to 5 times that number of installations, Win 95 is highly relevant. I don't mind people discussing the use of a GUS in Linux even though Linux hasn't gone to mass market yet. Good or bad, Win95 will soon dominate, if not obliterate the PC/OS market. It is in every GUS owner's best interest to ensure that the GUS is a viable card with the world's most popular (not necessarily best) operating (environment/system, whichever you prefer. And now to General discussion of GUS... - ----------------------- Re: GUS w/Win95 I've managed to get this semi-working, so I thought I'd just post to let others know how it happened for me. (I should point out, it was anything but easy. I had already ordered a SB-clone before I got any sounds of the GUS in Win95.) I installed Windows into a WIN95 directory, not over top of \WINDOWS. Of course this means a lot of extra setup and reinstallation, but I need to have my old DOS 6.2 and Win 3.1 ready to run. I made a directory containing just the version 5.48 drivers and the INF files. I used the Add Hardware applet to add the Gravis drivers for MIDI and WAV. Whenever I tried to install the full ULTRASND\WINDOWS directory (which includes MIXER and other stuff), the installation would bomb and Win 95 would fail on startup. Version 5.50 drivers didn't seem to work properly for me either. I have heard from others whose installation went flawlessly. I now have Windows support for .WAV sounds and MIDI output. Problems? You bet. Frequently, when a .wav sounds, it will 'skip' back to its beginning and play over again, and again again, at a high rate. It sounds like the system is 'stuttering' on that sound. Running ULTRINIT or some other new .wav will always clear the sound. (This problem seems to occur when multitasking, or else right on the startup sound.) MIDI problems - the instruments do not always load. Sometimes I have to try and retry to load and play the MIDI to hear anything. Patch Manager seems to use the wrong bank, however this could be an installation problem since I've never done a proper install of Patch Manager to Windows. Perhaps the .INI file is not yet setup properly in the WIN95 directory. Video for Windows playback. There are numerous inconsistencies using VWF ver 1(d). It seems to be playing sound, but the volume is so low. If I move the Gravis Mixer volume slider while an .AVI is playing, the sound comes through load and clear. But as soon as the .AVI ends, the volume is reset to ~0 again. I haven't had very much success using MAXSBOS or the new MEGAEM in Win95, but then again those programs barely worked for me in DOS. I've had plenty of success running games using the Win95 command prompt. (For those who don't know, press F8 on bootup, then select Command prompt.) I find that this command prompt is pretty good at running SBOS, mega-em, etc, and excels at running games. I am sure that several of the action games run much quicker than they used to under DOS. I haven't found that these games run very fast in a Win95 DOS box however, just when booting to Win95 command prompt. - ---------\ Neil D /--------- Neil Danylczuk PCS (Professional Computer Services) Phone: (306) 787-1080 Regina, SK, Canada - ---------/ndanylcz@socrates.health.gov.sk.ca\--------- ------------------------------ From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 09:32:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: New listserver From: Clarke Brunt Having just tried the new request line gus-general-request@mail.orst.edu, MajorDomo politely informed me that requests must be in the *body* of the message, and *not* in the subject line as yesterday's info said. This will imply that you can give more than one command per message, but will confuse anyone who has learnt to subscribe/unsubscribe using the subject line. Notes from Moderator: Sorry about that, I will fix it now... Thanks for noting that it doesn't use the subject line though since I completely forgot about it.. Cheers, Vince ___ System Administrator \|/ bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU ___ | The California Unix Public Access (o o) Systems, Inc. (CUPA) | | root@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU -oOO__(_)__OOo- San Francisco, California USA | | __ __ __ __ __ _____ _____ UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering | | ( )( )( )( ) ( )( ___)( ___) Los Angeles, California USA | \(__)/ ( )( )\| )( ) ( )_ E-Mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu, \ / ( )( ) \ )( )__ ( )__ mailserv@gaia.ucs.orst.edu, \/ (__)(__) (__)(_____)(_____) mailserv@mail.nws.orst.edu, I.S.A. Class of 1992 vince@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU, International Studies Academy High School vince@archive.epas.utoronto.ca, San Francisco, California USA vince@axposf.Stanford.EDU, GUS Digest/Mailing List Administrator vpoy@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The VINCEP@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu, ultimate in computer soundcard technology upoy@physics.ucla.edu FreeBSD - Real Berkeley Unix(tm) for Free! BSD (tm)(c) 1995 - The Regents of | -=oOO There are many forms of science the University of California | | but only physics is the quantum leap of the 21st century OOo=- | | Harvard/Yale/MIT/Princeton/Berkeley Student in the making | |___ Copyrighted (c) 1995 by Vince. All Rights Reserved. ___| ------------------------------ From: emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no (Emil Rakoczy) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 16:39:05 +0100 Subject: BRAND NEW PATCHES!!!!!!:)) Sorry to disappoint you, but I need the attention. I know it's rather old but.... how can I get sound on syndicate with my GUS. And which ftp has got the most patches.. Thanks! No, really! Thanks! EmilR, Norway (Perk Svar paa mailen din sloeve sofasliter...) "Words are turds!" *****THE_FANCY_SIGNATURE****** * Realtime:Emil Rakoczy * * Nickname:Lurking Puppet * * IRC:Lurking * * E-Mail:emilr@ksnet.ksedb.no* ******To be expanded...******* ------------------------------ From: "Frank Pikelner" Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 13:55:28 -0400 Subject: Windows 95 I would like to ask what the problem is with the people complaining about Windows 95 and Gravis posts? This is a digest is for everyone that wants to read and post to it. If you do not like a particular article - don't read it, or don't respond to it. I have the Gravis working fine in 95, and I'm very interested to hear how other are fairing as I would like to know if problems occur on other systems/setup. Please try to be tolerant of other people, and their postings. Cheers, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ___/ / Frank Pikelner /~\ / _/ / Technical Assistant, Department of Computer Science __/ ___/ York University (Toronto, Canada) ,\^/; _/ _/ Internet: frank@cs.yorku.ca _{!}_ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ From: Greg Date: Fri, 05 May 1995 14:47:23 EDT Subject: Terminal Velocity SBOS works fine with TV. I am using version 3.82 and have no memory managers such as emm386.exe loaded. Make sure you choose SB compatibles and not the genuine SB driver. The digital music and sound is not nearly as good as Epic's and Crystal Dynamics' digital music system. Thursday night, I downloaded the USNF patch hoping it contained version 3.4 of the Digpak driver. But, the patch included the same 3.2 driver that comes with the Ultrasound card. ------------------------------ From: rodman@wizvax.net (Joshua S. Rodman) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:00:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 (os wars) > It's strange that formatting a disk is a really common example. Disks come > pre-formatted anyway, so you don't need to format. Formatting a disk is often used as an example since it is something that should not take significant processortime but often hogs the whole computer while waiting for interrupts. (Manley drivers) > > Thanks for new, integrated driver. Will old version of UltiMOD work or > > is new one ready? When will S3M, etc be added? Any dates on SB > > emulation or MIDI synth? Thanks. > > A new version of UltiMOD will be included in the driver distribution. > S3M is being worked on by Sander and we are also discussing MIDI synth. A really complete modplayer native to OS/2 might actually get me to run the OS ;). (I am serious here). Why not try talking to Pelusa about DSIK or Hardcode about Extended mikimod2.02 which is written in portable C and plays everything properly and ships with source. You can find it at ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/demos/music/programs/players/mikm202.arj or something like that. (OS wars) > DO NOT POST MESSAGES ABOUT WIN 95 UNTIL IT IS OUT. Or at least keep the flame fest to e-mail? (MODUS problems) > > [Mod for Win problems] > > That's not exact, Modus does it fine by using the midi facilities and loading > > the mod samples as midi patches in the GUS RAM so it is possible to avoid > > mixing with the CPU. > > There might be a newer version, but I didn't know about this. There is no such version of MODUS. I don't know if it is possble to play mods through midi drivers, but it would be really neat if you could. For now MODUS will not cooperate with WAV or MIDI playback. (Mod 4 Win buzzing) > When listening to some mods with good samples > you can hear static hizzzzzz with M4W or any other software mixing player > mix on GUS play them bright & clear... try eg. Capamod Yup, I'm an advocate of Capamod for native playback, though you NEED to get 2.22 as 2.2 has a number of serious bugs. However this 'buzz' you speak of does not exist in my computer. I do not use crappy MM speakers, but a hi-fi 200Watt amplifier and very nice floor speakers. Perhaps your case is poorly grounded or your mic-in is on? In all seriousness dope.mod and klfzymba.mtm sound very _bad_ on native GUS mixing due to the low sampling rate with many channels open. (length of this post) Shoot me I talk too much. - -- Serve the Computer. The Computer is your friend. Be a happy Alpha Complex citizen. ------------------------------ From: Marty Danko -Khertz- Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 12:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [none] Gus people, FT2 (fast tracker 2) is by far the c00lest tracker around! except... it seems when evere the insturments fade away there is a slight clicking sound for every increment level it goes down by! Whats up? Is there a way to fix this? I have a gusmax (1mb) 486dx266 8mbram ultrasnd=220,5,7,5,7. I have tried different bus speeds and everthing please help! Thanks in advance, Marty mdanko@dhs.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:27 -0400 Subject: RE: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 > From: rodman@wizvax.net (Joshua S. Rodman) >All I can say about whether demos run under os/2 or not is... >Lets not mention this ever again. It is not relevant to the GUS. >Flame me in e-mail if you must. Actually, the question related to something IBM sponsored called the OS/2 demo compo. The idea here was to make a demo (DOS was OK) that "advertised" OS/2 WARP in the same way that most demos "advertise" the group that made them (the demos). So it would say something interesting and have cool music, effects, etc ABOUT OS/2. If it ran under OS/2, so much the better, DOS was ok. And, since the GUS the the demo standard :-), it wouldn't hurt to support the GUS. I, too, would be interested to know whatever happened... DDA ------------------------------ From: DANTONIO@PROCESS.COM (Momentary Language, Sexual Situations) Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 15:38 -0400 Subject: RE: The GUS Daily Digest V22 #4 > From: Matt@machine.demon.co.uk (Matt Robinson) > funny you should say that :) I remember the launch of Warp very well. The half- > deafening of the front 3 rows of journalists, the installation bug, the 45 day > demo that worked for 90 days, etc, etc. Sure Win(doze) 95 aint perfect, but > neither is Warp(ed) The installation bug showed up in a few machines with a certain set of files in the root directory. IBM pulled WARP and fixed it and then rereleased. But the press hyped the snot out of it, all without understanding what the problem really was. > Yeah, but then they would, wouldn't they. It's not as if MS will write "Win 95 > is a crap OS" in the feature review. And if it's a dos shell, then who cares, at > least now it's 32bit (mostly). Not even "mostly." More then 1/2 of Kernel, about 1/2 of GDI and less then 1/2 of user. And you still pay the thunking cost as well as the Win16Lock for every 16bit call. > It's strange that formatting a disk is a really common example. Disks come > pre-formatted anyway, so you don't need to format. And about the above, WHY THE > HELL would you want to run 5 copies of Excel? It's a multi-document program, you I reformat floppies all the time to get clean the entire thing. Windows 3.x had alot of trouble doing this and letting you do ANYTHING else. Thus, the example above. As for why someone would run 5 copies of Excel...Might it be because there are VERY few 32 bit apps out there to test the stability and multitasking abilities with. So one who is evaluating something has to improvise, like running multiple copies. And yes, you can wordprocess while the spreadsheet is recalcing and enter new data while the wordprocessor is reformating. Or at least you can in OS/2. I don't know about Windows 95 (yet). Since this is minimally related to the GUS (aside from how each OS supports the GUS), we can (and should) take it to email... DDA ------------------------------ From: Markus Jvnsson Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 22:35:36 +0200 Subject: Announcing 2PAT v1.5 ============================================================================ FMJ-Software presents: =|-------------------------------------|= =| 2PAT:Wavetable instrument converter |= =| |= =| version 1.5 for |= =| |= =| Windows 95 - NT - v3.x + Win32s |= =|-------------------------------------|= =| |= =| Imports: |= =| AIF, AU, EFE, FSM, GKH, IFF, INS, |= =| KRZ, MOD, MTM, PAT, RAW, SBK, SDK, |= =| SDS, SDX, SMP, SND, STM, S3M, SYW, |= =| TXW, 669, ULT, UWF, VOC, WAV, WFB, |= =| WFD, WFP |= =| |= =| Exports: |= =| AIF, PAT, RAW, SND, SDS, WAV, WFP |= =| |= =|-------------------------------------|= Now available by WWW from: http://www.nada.kth.se/~f93-maj/fmjsoft.html' Also has been uploaded to: ftp://archive.epas.utoronto.ca/pub/pc/ultrasound/submit/2pat15.zip As a _last resort_ if you can't get it from any of above, I can uuencode and mail it to you, send request by mail to: f93-maj@nada.kth.se news in version 1.5 (since v1.4): Reworked user interface for Windows 95. Right mouse button based, uses the registry, associates file types, uses long filenames, new icons, resizable window frame et c. No longer uses CTL3D32.DLL since thats no longer necessary for the 3D look. Will still run under Windows 3.1x with Win32s v1.1 and up but will probably not look very good; Win32s v1.3 will probably fix that when its out. Instrument info box with info corresponding to a .DES file. Improved Kurzweil KRZ support; fixed the sample rate and a few other things. Now creates instruments from both the sample and the keymap level, since the keymap, i.e. instrument, level doesnt always work.... Added AIF as export format. Added SND as export format. Added RAW as export format. Fixed problem with not beeing able to launch WinHelp from arbitrary directories. Assignes unique names for unnamed samples and instruments (fixes problem with WaveFront based cards). Fixed problem with unnamed instruments in .PAT files. ============================================================================ ------------------------------ From: Vince - IE - Experimental Mail Server Admin Acct Date: Fri, 5 May 1995 14:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: GUS and CDROM's (fwd) On Fri, 5 May 1995, Clarke Brunt wrote: > And any chance of reducing the extra headers on each message that the > new listserver is putting on, and any chance of a slightly smaller > .sig from Vince, even though he does seem to have more email addresses > than the rest of us put together :-) For the header, it can't be shortened at this time since the list on being run on another machine and not on mail.orst.edu :-) So in a few weeks, when this machine becomes mail.orst.edu instead of the current mail.orst.edu pointing as a CNAME on another machine, there is no way around it... As for my sig, I'll shorten it when I have the time and besides, shouldn't List Maintainer's have big sigs? :-) Just Kidding, I'm busy with Mid-Terms and Finals are coming up... Cheers, Vince ___ System Administrator \|/ bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU ___ | The California Unix Public Access (o o) Systems, Inc. (CUPA) | | root@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU -oOO__(_)__OOo- San Francisco, California USA | | __ __ __ __ __ _____ _____ UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering | | ( )( )( )( ) ( )( ___)( ___) Los Angeles, California USA | \(__)/ ( )( )\| )( ) ( )_ E-Mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu, \ / ( )( ) \ )( )__ ( )__ mailserv@gaia.ucs.orst.edu, \/ (__)(__) (__)(_____)(_____) mailserv@mail.nws.orst.edu, I.S.A. Class of 1992 vince@bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU, International Studies Academy High School vince@archive.epas.utoronto.ca, San Francisco, California USA vince@axposf.Stanford.EDU, GUS Digest/Mailing List Administrator vpoy@freenet.scri.fsu.edu, Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The VINCEP@axpvms.cc.utexas.edu, ultimate in computer soundcard technology upoy@physics.ucla.edu FreeBSD - Real Berkeley Unix(tm) for Free! BSD (tm)(c) 1995 - The Regents of | -=oOO There are many forms of science the University of California | | but only physics is the quantum leap of the 21st century OOo=- | | Harvard/Yale/MIT/Princeton/Berkeley Student in the making | |___ Copyrighted (c) 1995 by Vince. All Rights Reserved. ___| ------------------------------ From: Tom.Deneau@amd.com (Tom Deneau) Date: Fri, 5 May 95 16:53:56 CDT Subject: No Cursor when Windows comes up first time. I upgraded my GUS software to 357 and now see a problem that I haven't seen in a long time, that is, no Cursor when Windows comes up first time. If I exit windows and reenter, everything's fine. I'm sure I've seen this question asked before but couldn't find the answer in the FAQ or in any recent digests. - -- Tom ------------------------------ From: ballen@ejv.com (Bill Allen) Date: Fri, 5 May 95 18:22:43 EDT Subject: Win95 discussion concerns. I've noticed some concern in the Digest about the Win95 posts. I believe that a simple rule will suffice: If it's GUS related then it belongs, whether it concerns OS/2, Windows, DOS, Win95, or bare metal, otherwise, it belongs somewhere else. I have my reasons for my choice of OS and you have yours - that is not what this Digest is about - it's about the GUS, so let's keep it that way. The world survives with Fords and Chevys. Theres enough room for multiple OS. Bill Allen ------------------------------ From: Paal Andreassen Date: Mon, 8 May 95 19:13:46 METDST Subject: Gus resources vie IRC Here's a litte message to all the gus using irc addicts out there: On the channel #Gus there is now a well established Gus file server called GusEuro (cause it's located in Europe). This "bot" is dedicated to bring you the latest in gus related files, like mods, games, utils, drivers etc. Feel free to pop in to #Gus anytime or try out the self-explaining bot by writing /dcc chat GusEuro once you've entered irc. btw: I've finally got an ansvert from gravis about the Win 95 drivers, and the guy said that Gravis would release win 95 specific drivers when ever win 95 is finally released. In other words we can expect win95 drivers sometime in early 96 :) - -- Paal Andreassen (mailto:paaland3@knoll.kih.no) Buskerud College - Engineering Programme Department Institute of Computer Science http://knoll.kih.no:8001/stud/paaland3 ------------------------------ From: ballen@ejv.com (Bill Allen) Date: Fri, 5 May 95 18:22:43 EDT Subject: Win95 discussion concerns. I've noticed some concern in the Digest about the Win95 posts. I believe that a simple rule will suffice: If it's GUS related then it belongs, whether it concerns OS/2, Windows, DOS, Win95, or bare metal, otherwise, it belongs somewhere else. I have my reasons for my choice of OS and you have yours - that is not what this Digest is about - it's about the GUS, so let's keep it that way. The world survives with Fords and Chevys. Theres enough room for multiple OS. Bill Allen ------------------------------ From: ct91@cityscape.co.uk (Damian Scully) Date: Mon, 8 May 1995 20:08:21 +0100 Subject: StarTrek TNG I recently played a demo of Star Trek TNG, but I had problems with the sound. I managed to get SB emulation using the new Megaem, but it was crackly and jumpy. Could someone please tell me if there is a way of fixing this, as I would like to buy the full game. 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